Stiens overall is not a place I prefer to shop. I found the personnel unknowledgeable and not willing to help you find materials .I don't like the fact that you have to load your own lumber if you want some what straight lumber or materials. And stopping at the gate to have a person count 3 2x4's Is a waste of my time. I try to use other sources whenever I can. When you call for a product they say is in stock and drive 28 miles one way to arrive not find the product and they want to know who I talked to.